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    Need grip screws

    I recently picked up this Bersa Model 223. The guy I bought it from lost the grip screws and had them replaced with the brass flat head screws shown in the pic.
    As near as I could tell, they were 8-32. I bought some 8-32 screws but they don't want to go in the holes in the frame more than one turn.
    The flat head brass screws that are currently holding on the grips will go on a 8-32 nut.
    Does anyone know the proper size of the original grip screws?
    Nurmrich wants $3.30 each for replacements, plus shipping.
    I figure if I can determine the proper size I can acquire some myself. Maybe from the local Fastenal store.
    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Need grip screws

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    Re: Need grip screws

    You know what? I might just stay with those flat head brass screws. They work, and this is just a plinker gun anyway. I can afford proper screws but I can't see paying that price.
    I might turn down those screw heads so that they fit more flush in the recess.
    They give the gun character.

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    Re: Need grip screws

    "IF" the threads in the frame are't boogered up?..... and they actually match the screws that are in place..... you should be able to take the screws to Lowe's or Home Depot and find a screw with the right threads that look like or similar to the originals.
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    Re: Need grip screws

    Those screws are almost certainly metric. Best I can tell a #4-0.8...

    If the replacements are SAE the brass is softer than the steel and the screw threads probably reshaped to fit the steel. JMHO
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    Re: Need grip screws

    .... wasn't thinking "brass"....... was just thinking about "wrong screw threads".
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    Re: Need grip screws

    i'd think 2x about even removing those screws, and i'm still on the same page as the 1st time i saw them,

    99.999999999999999999% probability that the original threads are long gone and should be now considered 'Whitworth'

    have you had them out yet?

    what can you feel / see up into the mag well?

    worst case you remove the screws they never go back in and glue the grips on with RTV problem solved

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    Re: Need grip screws

    Quote Originally Posted by Vito Glisenti View Post
    99.999999999999999999% probability that the original threads are long gone and should be now considered 'Whitworth'
    Lol, I happen to own a vast array of British Std Whitworth taps and dies accumulated mostly from building old Jag engines. The pitch is usually the same as UNC, but the profile is different and there's some odd fractional sizes not used in the US. Those were the days.The days that thinned and grayed my hair.
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    Re: Need grip screws

    Quote Originally Posted by Vito Glisenti View Post
    i'd think 2x about even removing those screws, and i'm still on the same page as the 1st time i saw them,

    99.999999999999999999% probability that the original threads are long gone and should be now considered 'Whitworth'

    have you had them out yet?

    what can you feel / see up into the mag well?

    worst case you remove the screws they never go back in and glue the grips on with RTV problem solved
    I've had them in and out many, many times.
    The guy I bought the gun from lost the original screws. Pretty certain he took it to Glenn, who was a very reputable local gunsmith.
    Sadly, both the original owner and Glenn the gunsmith have passed away.
    And I repeat; the brass screws will go into a 8-32 nut, but an 8-32 screw won't go into the holes in the frame.
    But it's a jam-o-matic so I'm leaving it the way it is.
    It now has immense sentimental value so I wouldn't replace the screws if I could.
    The guy I got it from just passed away today.
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    Re: Need grip screws

    Well that sucks. I'm sorry for your loss. Maybe that's all the more reason to get the gun running again, with those screws remaining.
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    Re: Need grip screws

    My condolences for your loss bustoff,

    Quote Originally Posted by bustoff View Post
    But it's a jam-o-matic so I'm leaving it the way it is.
    Remove the mag and look in the well where the grip screws mount....if they protrude through the frame they may be rubbing against the sear (if so they can cause issues)

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    Re: Need grip screws

    from Argentina i'd guess the threads started out as metric?

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    Re: Need grip screws

    Quote Originally Posted by pollyb View Post
    My condolences for your loss bustoff,



    Remove the mag and look in the well where the grip screws mount....if they protrude through the frame they may be rubbing against the sear (if so they can cause issues)

    regards jab
    No, they don't protrude. Glenn the gunsmith wouldn't have done that. Assuming it was Glenn who did the replacement. I can't imagine who else could have. He was the go-to guy.

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    Re: Need grip screws

    Being a machinist, when I lost a grip screw, I took one of every small screw we had in the shop (English and Metric) and none would fit.
    I'm guessing it may be some funky uncommon size or a proprietary thread size.

    What I may try next is to take an 8-32 screw and turn the major dia. down a bit and see if that fits.
    If that doesn't work, I'll head back to the optical comparator, get the measurements of an actual grip screw, and see about making my own.

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