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  • Vito Glisenti
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    a Temporary Restraining Order / Injunction has been granted

    and the Gun Dealer Licensing bill is back again in the form of SB337, but this bill carries a Motion To Reconsider which must be withdrawn or voted on before it can be signed

    i hope the ISRA & NRA are ready for the schitt storm that JB Pritzker will bring on if he wins the illannoy presidency (currently usurped by dear leader mike madigan)


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  • Vito Glisenti
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    no specific firearm info connected to FOID,

    FOID card holders get background checked literally every day of the year except less than a handful of holidays.

    card required to buy ammo cash & carry or by mail, and firearms with an additional NICS check to verify the card has not been revoked,

    currently 72 hr wait for handguns stripped AR lowers and 'pistol' shotguns, 24 hr wait for long guns

    pending legislation to make everything 72 hrs if passed

    FOID also required for most airguns worth buying

    CCL supercedes FOID but both are issued for now

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  • mitchr
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    The FOID card you folks must get doesn't have firearm info? Maybe info on ammo calber?

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  • Vito Glisenti
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    list of owners i kinda doubt, except for any defacto registration local LE has gathered illegally during the course of daily operations ... or possibly an illegally created database derived from NICS as they go though Illinois State Police, but i've been reassured many times that it's not even possible to identify the proposed transfer item from the information forwarded to the ISP. see Background Check here https://www.gatguns.com/information/...-gun-buyer-faq

    but it would have what some call meta-data, name, address, date, approved or declined

    now all that's needed is a reason to inquire on the transferred item, maybe a concerned neighbor saw what appeared to be a possible weapon (wink wink) and that'll require an explanation. or social media 'evidence'. maybe an unconstitutional search of financial records of residents, i think i've read that Sometown USA has already done just that looking for a suspect

    produce the item before a deadline &/or comply to a voluntary search or SWAT'll be here in a few with a warrant and legal authority to pull the drywall down. open the safe or they'll torch it. they'll probably knock while you're at work, and detain you there for good measure pursuant to arrest for resisting or failure to comply. that'll look good on your next review

    w/o transfer docs it's still owned (possessed) by a resident within the jurisdiction, could AlphaBeT-FE confiscate the item from where it's being stored?

    and yeah it took a darn long time & legal action to get weapons illegally seized from Katrina in 8-2005 weren't returned until 2008 or later if at all after having been 'stored' in shipping a container IIRC

    never happen here, right?

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  • mitchr
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    I suppose the city has a list of owners so they know who to fine? I suppose their jurisdiction doesn't go past the city limits, so folks that have friends/relatives outside the city could just store them there until it's settled in the courts? You can bet your last dollar that when the court says you can't do that, weapons that have already been confiscated will not be returned, or will not be in condition to fire, if they are returned.

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  • Vito Glisenti
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    ISRA Richard Pearson did an appearance on Fox & Friends

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/579369804...#sp=show-clips

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  • ParaCav
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    [QUOTE=Vito Glisenti;411833]NRA to support Guns Save Life in Illinois Lawsuit

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...linois-lawsuit

    Great News. The first I have heard of it. If the NRA actually does something and gets this local law cabashed I will rejoin the NRA. I wonder if this will put a temp hold on the law. Can't remember if there was a definite time set for the law to become in effect?

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  • Vito Glisenti
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    NRA to support Guns Save Life in Illinois Lawsuit

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...linois-lawsuit


    Originally posted by John_R View Post
    I'd hate to be the person who has to collect the fines.

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  • John_R
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    I'd hate to be the person who has to collect the fines.

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  • Vito Glisenti
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    i personally can't prove damages to bring a case as i don't reside within Cook Co ...

    but what's even more ironic is the prevalent Jewish community in both Deerfield and Highland Park

    they're either being ignored representation, outvoted, or they're voting for these board members & unconstitutional measures?

    maybe they don't plan on abiding by any crap the Reichstag pushes through

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  • R.Ph. 380
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    Originally posted by Vito Glisenti View Post
    i can't help but think the FOID works, and frankly i'm surprised there hasn't been a call for the implementation to go national

    FWIW the FOID is superseded by the CCL if issued, and since we finally have 50 state CC (illinois was last?) perhaps a national Constitutional Concealed Carry Permit is where it'll end up? that would solve national reciprocity at the same time. under FOID in illannoy we undergo a background check 360 days a year, if used properly that provides for an early warning system for somebody going off the rails on a fast track for the headlines

    then we could concentrate on criminal BG's
    I absolutely will not allow a governmental entity to say whether or not I am allowed to purchase a handgun, rifle, or other weapon. First of all it is none of the government's business if I own or buy a weapon, Last of all, the 2nd amendment is my carry permit. It acknowledges the natural right I have to defend myself. It does NOT grant me that right. Remember, it's a RIGHT not a privilege to own and carry. If my local government were to pass such an ordinance, I would be in federal court the next day filing suit to halt implementation of and to enjoin the governmental entity from infringing on my Federal 2nd amendment rights. I then would start a recall petition on all the council members that voted in the affirmative. I would sue each one individually for infringement on my 1st, 2nd and 4th amendment rights. How can you inhabitants of the environs of Chicagnistan put up with these AH's???

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  • ParaCav
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    I don't think IL is vengeful of other ccw owners, it's simply that the libs who control IL want no guns in the State period. Except maybe shotguns, some of our "Leaders" like to Hunt.

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  • mitchr
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    Originally posted by guns4me View Post
    The current proposed National Reciprocity law still does nothing for those of us in "may issue/good cause" states.
    Another thing it will not do is protect a person from a vengeful state that resents being forced to honor a carry license from another state. I wouldn't trust them. They WILL find a way to make a person regret that they tested the new law.

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  • guns4me
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    The current proposed National Reciprocity law still does nothing for those of us in "may issue/good cause" states.

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  • Vito Glisenti
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    that's kinda the point, better to get an established functional plan in place before like it is in Deerfield ill / Cook Co

    hypothetical just came up, if a person that resides outside the 'curtain' gets called to do work in Deerfield, can they CC a hi-cap semi-auto or possess a trunk AR under FOID with legal capacity mags where they reside?

    would or would not National Reciprocity negate local bans?
    Last edited by Vito Glisenti; 04-04-2018, 04:18 PM.

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