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    Stinger is 32gr. faster.

    Velocitor is 40gr. heavier.

    out of a 6" barrel (thunder 22-6)

    shot from about 3m away

    both expanded to about the same diameter.

    velocitor penetrated more water bottles.
    Last edited by ron; 01-01-2011, 10:36 PM.

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    Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

    I'd like to see a graph where higher velocity w/ lighter weight bullet intersects with a lower velocity, heavier bullet, from a penetration standpoint.
    It seems mass wins over velocity.
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      #3
      Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

      Remember those supersonic .22lr rounds suffer from loss of accuracy when compared to sub-sonics. My tack drivers are always fed 1050 fps ammo. Most autos need the higher velocity for more recoil to operate the slide. The Firestorm .22lr auto is a good example, most won't cycle with subsonic ammo. My wifes Ruger Charger needs CCI mini-mags to cycle it's action, but my TC contender shooting Champion Standard plus will nail the bulls eye every time if I do my job behind that trigger.
      Last edited by Reginald Carstairs; 01-01-2011, 02:28 PM.
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        Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

        Originally posted by Reginald Carstairs View Post
        Remember those supersonic .22lr rounds suffer from loss of accuracy when compared to sub-sonics. My tack drivers are always fed 1050 fps ammo. Most autos need the higher velocity for more recoil to operate the slide. The Firestorm .22lr auto is a good example, most won't cycle with subsonic ammo. My wifes Ruger Charger needs CCI mini-mags to cycle it's action, but my TC contender shooting Champion Standard plus will nail the bulls eye every time if I do my job behind that trigger.
        I definitely agree that the sub-sonics are more accurate, then high velocity & then these hyper velocity rounds really lack in the accuracy department -- just my shooting experience.

        As to the cycling problem of .22 semi-autos, I have found that if a dry lube is used, they will almost always cycle even the sub-sonics. Oil, grease & even Finish Line "dry lube" gums up the works some until it gets warmed up. I use a dry lube like RemDri though probably there are some better. Finish Line works well if you soak the bolt & receiver good, then let dry a bit, & finally wipe off the excess with a small patch -- leaving all parts slicker than snot. 10/22's, Marlins, Buckmark & Mk3 all will cycle the sub-sonics just fine -- can't say for the FireStorm/Bersa .22 as never had one, however, used to have an Erma Excam that looks the very same & worked fine in it.

        Just my opinion & experience. If you really want to shoot the lower velocity stuff in your semi-auto .22, you might give it a try.
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          Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

          Thanks bcrtops, that's good information. I haven't done it but I wonder if I left the Charger (10/22 pistol) dry and put some KG-10 on the receiver rails if it would work with the standard rounds? I may try it and see.
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            Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

            Originally posted by Reginald Carstairs View Post
            Thanks bcrtops, that's good information. I haven't done it but I wonder if I left the Charger (10/22 pistol) dry and put some KG-10 on the receiver rails if it would work with the standard rounds? I may try it and see.
            KG-10 works well -- it is just real "messy" -- seems to end up everywhere
            RemDriLube works, but I always wonder if enough lube is really there -- it not very obvious
            I've only done it 2x, but really like the FinishLine, drying, & then wiping the excess off -- the metal parts are very obviously "slicked up"

            The .22's are just a straight blow back system. The adding of oil, grease, wax makes enough friction on the bolt that they don't cycle with the lighter sub-sonic rounds -- that is my theory. I have had similar issue with .45's shooting light weight target load (1st couple don't cycle completely, but the Finish Line warms right up on a .45 & cycles fine for the following rounds. Hand cycling the slide a few times on the .45 seems to work -- but the .22 just doesn't loosen or warm up that quickly/easily)
            Last edited by bcrtops; 01-01-2011, 05:13 PM.
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              "KG-10 works well -- it is just real "messy" -- seems to end up everywhere"

              You got that right!! Hint: It washes off hands pretty good, but not out of clothes!! All my T-shirts have a black smudge at the largest part of me, about belly button high.

              Back to subject: Might the KG10 work real well on the rails of a very tight 1911, instead of oil/grease? Also, in this cold weather, I suppose it's even more of a problem with Finish Line?
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                Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                how many meter's?
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                  #9
                  Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                  Here's some incredible 200 yard accuracy with Stingers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds0IOBjF_FQ
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                    Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                    Originally posted by jwash3rd View Post
                    Here's some incredible 200 yard accuracy with Stingers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds0IOBjF_FQ
                    Maybe I should be? But I'm not that impressed. I would think most anyone could duplicate that. I typically shoot at a 4" steel at 100 yds. I'd like to see DeeDee draw smiley faces on the head and shirt buttons on it.
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                      #11
                      Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                      I had an interesting result with Velocitors compared to Stingers. I've been shooting wetpak phone books with our various pistols and different rounds.

                      At 10 feet into a 9 inch thick wetpack (phone books) with 2 layers of denim laying on the front side of the wetpack from a 2.5 inch barrel, the Velocitors went completely thru the wetpack. There was no expansion at all, in fact, the "wound channel" in the phone books made it look like the bullets didn't even slow down. The Stingers expanded fully and evenly. Kind of shocked me.
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                        Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                        Originally posted by getvicious View Post
                        I had an interesting result with Velocitors compared to Stingers. I've been shooting wetpak phone books with our various pistols and different rounds.

                        At 10 feet into a 9 inch thick wetpack (phone books) with 2 layers of denim laying on the front side of the wetpack from a 2.5 inch barrel, the Velocitors went completely thru the wetpack. There was no expansion at all, in fact, the "wound channel" in the phone books made it look like the bullets didn't even slow down. The Stingers expanded fully and evenly. Kind of shocked me.

                        i shot mine out of a 6" barrel but note that they didn't mushroom very well despite the longer barrel. i guess it needs rifle velocities in order to expand it fully.

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                          Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                          I keep telling you all 22 is a great survival rifle head shots on zombie's at 100 yds In lawless times you can select fire on the leaders of gangs from distance with little chance of discovery . 2 or 300 yds with a scope . Remember in time od riots and law ness won't be much way of hospitals and emergency rooms Use solid points you want penetration.
                          When I was a kid we did 100yd shooting with open sights on ground hogs . Some where it became thought that 22 was a 50yd rifle . I don't know where that came from.
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                            Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                            Originally posted by Michael T View Post
                            I keep telling you all 22 is a great survival rifle head shots on zombie's at 100 yds In lawless times you can select fire on the leaders of gangs from distance with little chance of discovery . 2 or 300 yds with a scope . Remember in time od riots and law ness won't be much way of hospitals and emergency rooms Use solid points you want penetration.
                            When I was a kid we did 100yd shooting with open sights on ground hogs . Some where it became thought that 22 was a 50yd rifle . I don't know where that came from.
                            Well ...................a lot of "camp meat" has been taken with the lowly .22.
                            100 yrds. = yes
                            200 yrds. = skill level most back yard shooters won't have as pretty standard scope sighted in @ 75 yrds. will have -36" drop @ 200 yrds.
                            300 yrds. = still deadly, but good luck even getting in the sights of a very expensive scope with such a huge drop off. Guys have shot at the distance, but not like taking your .22 rifle off the rack & going outside & making the shot -- takes some good calibration & equipment.
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                              #15
                              Re: CCI Velocitor vs CCI Stinger

                              Velocitors are my 10/22's favorite hyper meal, with Blazers being the standard fare. All this talk and videos got me hungry to get more time with my Ruger rifle because it's cheap and fun. Sometimes we can get so handgun focused that we neglect the joy of small caliber plinking and target shooting.
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