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    Florida Cannot "Opt Out"

    US says FL can't opt out

    By Carol Gentry and Jim Saunders
    4/23/2010 © Health News Florida

    Only hours after the Florida House and Senate voted to “opt out” of the new federal health law, the top U.S. health official said Thursday night that will not be permitted.

    Without mentioning any particular state or going into detail, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that state and local officials can vent all they want about a so-called “federal takeover” of health care. But they cannot deny their citizens access to its benefits or requirements, she told the Association of Health Care Journalists.
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    “They may want to opt out, but they don’t get to opt out all of their citizens who want and need health care,” Sebelius said.

    Florida has an estimated 4 million uninsured, most of whom will be covered when the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) takes full effect in 2014.

    At least 30 states have passed state constitutional amendment legislation similar to that approved by the Florida Legislature, according to theNational Conference of State Legislatures.

    Sebelius said the backlash against the ACA has been ginned up by “misinformation,” much of it deliberate. Thus HHS will be setting up an Internet site to answer frequent questions and a toll-free helpline, similar to that operated for Medicare beneficiaries. HHS staff members present at the conference said they hope to have the Internet site up by July 1 and the help desk soon after.

    The opt-out measure passed in the House and Senate on Thursday, a proposed amendment to the Florida Constitution, will go before voters in the November election. The proposal says, in part, that Floridians may not be forced by law to "participate in any health-care system.''


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    i shall be looking foward to this on this years ballot.. thank you penfield
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      as if I needed further urging to go to the polls in November.

      at least our Legislature is trying to stand up for its citizens!
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        Were are states rights The government has no authority to do this things now and more than they did when Lincoln attacked the south. The southerns stats had a right to leave then and may be states should start leaving again.
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          THIS IS A FEW MONTHS OLD BUT GIVES AN IDEA OF WHAT FLA. IS TRYING TO SAVE IT'S PEOPLE FROM. ANY STATE WHOSE GOVERNMENT CARES ABOUT IT'S PEOPLE WILL DO AS FLA. IS TRYING TO DO AND MINNESOTASTAN IS JUST GONNA LET OVOMIT AND COMPANY HAVE US WITHOUT A FIGHT.

          Paul Joseph Watson
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          Tuesday, December 22, 2009

          A Boston Globe analysis of the health care bill which Democrats are trying to ram through before Christmas illustrates how the legislation is a gigantic tax heist which will further economically cripple Americans already laboring under the worst financial crisis since the great depression.

          H.R. 3590 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which is set to be voted on by the Senate on Christmas Eve, contains a raft of pork barrel and tax hikes. The legislation has not even been read in full by many of the representatives eager to make it the law, including fervent advocate John Kerry.

          “While it would take days to read the entire bill, my cursory review of the legislation identified at least 19 tax increases,” writes the Globe’s Jamie Downey.

          Chief amongst those tax hikes is the one outlined in Section 1501 – Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage. Individuals who don’t maintain mandatory health insurance will face an annual tax penalty of $750, an amount set to escalate even higher in future.

          Section 9013 reduces the amount that can be deducted as expenses for people incurring significant health costs. This will directly impact the living standards of individuals already struggling under the burden of long-term illnesses.

          With income taxes already on the increase to pay for the mass looting of the American taxpayer in the form of the multi-trillion dollar bailout, with the highest rate already increasing by 3.6 percent, a further tax on Medicare will be imposed on individuals making in excess of $200,000 and married couples making over $250,000 under Section 9015.

          The government will also collect a new 5 percent tax on voluntary cosmetic procedures under Section 9017. Since in other state-run health care systems, such as Canada, “voluntary procedures” is a term also applied to people with life-threatening conditions who sometimes have to wait 18 months to get treatment, the eventual scope of this new tax can only be imagined.

          While the new taxes on individuals are bad enough, the penalties imposed on pharmaceutical corporations, health insurers and employers are perhaps worse because the tax hikes will undoubtedly passed on to the general public in the form of higher costs.

          Section 9008 imposes an annual fee on branded prescription pharmaceutical manufacturers and importers, which equates to a a $2.3 billion excise tax on the pharmaceutical industry based on market share starting immediately. Prescription drugs, which will not be free for Americans under “free” health care, will soar in cost as a result of this new tax.

          Section 9009 imposes a $2 billion excise tax on the medical device industry. This will increase the cost of life-saving technology and equipment, meaning hospitals will buy fewer devices, meaning longer waiting lists for vital treatment and more deaths as a result of these delays.

          An annual excise tax of $6.7 billion on health insurance providers under Section 9010 will also jack up prices.

          “How can the imposition of $11 billion in excise taxes (section 9008, 9009 and 9010) on the health care industry reduce costs to consumers? Does anyone else suspect these companies will have to pass these costs over to consumers?” writes Downey.
          Last edited by pondrast; 04-24-2010, 06:50 PM.

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            Be Careful pondrast!

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              You know Penfield, that poster is more scary, than it is funny.
              Don't worry about the guns, send lawyers and money.

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                Very much so RT.
                It is the Duty of a Patriot to Protect One's Country From Its Government.
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                  Needless to say I'll be there in November. I think it will be a big turn out for the silent majority have taken a bullet and they don't like it at all! A lot that didn't like George Bush went for the BS Change man, I would say these votes will come back in 2012.

                  Obama's only going to be a one term president, He knows it and is following a pattern that shows just that. He can put a world of hurt on this Country for years to come with his tenure nominations to SCOTUS before he exits his office. We can and will turn around some of the crap he is pushing through, but the SCOTUS is a future cancer to America and our Constitution!
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                    Originally posted by Michael T View Post
                    Were are states rights The government has no authority to do this things now and more than they did when Lincoln attacked the south. The southerns stats had a right to leave then and may be states should start leaving again.
                    http://www.texasnationalist.com/

                    Bill
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                      Originally posted by Reginald Carstairs View Post
                      Needless to say I'll be there in November. I think it will be a big turn out for the silent majority have taken a bullet and they don't like it at all! A lot that didn't like George Bush went for the BS Change man, I would say these votes will come back in 2012.

                      Obama's only going to be a one term president, He knows it and is following a pattern that shows just that. He can put a world of hurt on this Country for years to come with his tenure nominations to SCOTUS before he exits his office. We can and will turn around some of the crap he is pushing through, but the SCOTUS is a future cancer to America and our Constitution!
                      Don't count on it RC, We just had a special election to replace my favorite "Flaming Liberal" Robert Wexler, who like other congressmen quit (resigned) Who did the people vote in...... his understudy, a person that was mentored by Robert Wexler. BTW, he was a member of the Congresssonal Socialist Caucus. The new Libatard took 67% of the vote... go figure.
                      Don't worry about the guns, send lawyers and money.

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